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Message 16701 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 17:51:39 UTC
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I propose to introduce the badges system:

Bronze - 100K

Silver - 1M

Gold - 5M

Amethyst - 20M

Ruby - 100M

Sapphire - 500M

Emerald - 2B

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Message 16704 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 22:54:18 UTC
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I'm game. On which pages should they be visible?

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Message 16707 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 1:13:18 UTC - in response to Message 16704.

I'm game. On which pages should they be visible?


I would prefer the account page like at Primegrid.

http://www.primegrid.com/show_user.php?userid=121106
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Message 16708 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 3:18:48 UTC - in response to Message 16704.

I'm game. On which pages should they be visible?

On http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/home.php in `Computing and credit` chapter between `Recent average credit` and `Pending credit`
On http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/show_user.php?userid=14470 between `Recent average credit` and `Computers`
On http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/team_members.php?teamid=578 for every member with badge after `Name`

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Message 16709 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 5:06:57 UTC

Images (badges) are 'alpha' release. I will listen all suggestions for improvement.

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Message 16710 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 5:48:41 UTC

Circle 28x28 pixel with transparency:

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Message 16717 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 12:00:59 UTC

I like the circles one.

And for the pages, I like the pages proposed by arkayn & x3mEn.

Any idea about the integration of this super wonderful feature ? ;-)

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Message 16720 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 18:27:41 UTC
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This is a very good idea, nice job CHIP. I prefer the circular badges, everywhere ;-).

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Message 16721 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 18:34:00 UTC

Asteroids@home - 28x26 px
Enigma@home - 27x27 px
NumberFields@home - 28x28 px
OProject@Home - 28x28 px
PrimeGrid - 16x16 px
Radioactive@home - 28x28 px
World Community Grid - 28x28 px
WUProp@Home - 28x28 px
Yoyo@home - 26x16 px

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Collatz Conjecture - 28x28 px

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Message 16722 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 18:34:46 UTC

Yes it's fun !
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Message 16754 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 6:01:31 UTC

I think there should be a slight tweek in the numbers and add one more badge...

Bronze = 50k
Silver = 200k
Gold = 1M (the color should be change to look gold not yellow)
Amethyst = 5M
Topaz = 20M (this should have the yellow color)
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And I agree the round ones look better.

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Message 16755 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 8:50:30 UTC

Many badges - a bad idea.

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Message 16758 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 10:59:00 UTC - in response to Message 16755.

Many badges - a bad idea.


IF you are going to give out badges giving them less often means people will get one and think the next one is too far off and quit. Making them closer together makes people think 'only 2 more months and I can get the next one' and they keep going. BUT there should be new ones added at the top all the time, WCG has badges but the highest is 2 years per badge, I got those very quickly and don't really have any incentive to keep crunching there, I already have all the badges I can get! You need to keep adding new ones at the top as people get more and more badges, just to keep them crunching here instead of elsewhere. Otherwise all you will ever have is new people, all the long time crunchers will be elsewhere.

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Message 16771 - Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 19:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 16758.

Many badges - a bad idea.


IF you are going to give out badges giving them less often means people will get one and think the next one is too far off and quit. Making them closer together makes people think 'only 2 more months and I can get the next one' and they keep going. BUT there should be new ones added at the top all the time, WCG has badges but the highest is 2 years per badge, I got those very quickly and don't really have any incentive to keep crunching there, I already have all the badges I can get! You need to keep adding new ones at the top as people get more and more badges, just to keep them crunching here instead of elsewhere. Otherwise all you will ever have is new people, all the long time crunchers will be elsewhere.


Either you crunch for badges, either you crunch for science. :-)

Personnaly, I crunch for science, and I'm very glad to get badges or certificate for helping this research to go forward. But I don't need badges for crunching on a particular subject.
I pride myself on having helping fighting aids or other stuff.

In that way, I'm not sure having billions of badges will help science.

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Message 16774 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 11:33:40 UTC - in response to Message 16771.

Many badges - a bad idea.


IF you are going to give out badges giving them less often means people will get one and think the next one is too far off and quit. Making them closer together makes people think 'only 2 more months and I can get the next one' and they keep going. BUT there should be new ones added at the top all the time, WCG has badges but the highest is 2 years per badge, I got those very quickly and don't really have any incentive to keep crunching there, I already have all the badges I can get! You need to keep adding new ones at the top as people get more and more badges, just to keep them crunching here instead of elsewhere. Otherwise all you will ever have is new people, all the long time crunchers will be elsewhere.


Either you crunch for badges, either you crunch for science. :-)

Personnaly, I crunch for science, and I'm very glad to get badges or certificate for helping this research to go forward. But I don't need badges for crunching on a particular subject.
I pride myself on having helping fighting aids or other stuff.

In that way, I'm not sure having billions of badges will help science.


I sort of agree, crunching SHOULD be an either/or situation, but since we are all humans making the decision about which project to crunch for, LOTS of things come into play. Badges are essentially goal posts along the path of crunching for a project that you either surpass or you don't. No it does not take some extra effort on the crunchers part, just the dogged determination to continue sticking with it long enough to reach the next goal/badge.

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Message 16887 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 14:28:49 UTC - in response to Message 16710.

Circle 28x28 pixel with transparency:



I'm thinking of having different badges for the mini WUs than the other apps. To show that the badge is for mini, should the badges be half the size (but still be 28x28px)?

Secondly, if I do badges by app instead of total credit, that only works for new WUs since prior to yesterday, the validator tracked only total credit and not credits by app. I have no way of figuring out which previous credits came from which apps, so the badges would either have to ignore any work done so far or I need to come up with a way to divide the credits (e.g. assume that since mini WUs are 1/8 the size, that the badge credit would be split 1 to 8 as well).

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Message 16890 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 19:58:11 UTC

I thought it would be one badge for all application with its replace to 'next' color.

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Message 16891 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 20:26:31 UTC

If all of the applications do the same thing, except with different work sizes, the badges should be based on total credit.

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Message 16894 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 0:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 16887.

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Circle 28x28 pixel with transparency:



I'm thinking of having different badges for the mini WUs than the other apps. To show that the badge is for mini, should the badges be half the size (but still be 28x28px)?

Secondly, if I do badges by app instead of total credit, that only works for new WUs since prior to yesterday, the validator tracked only total credit and not credits by app. I have no way of figuring out which previous credits came from which apps, so the badges would either have to ignore any work done so far or I need to come up with a way to divide the credits (e.g. assume that since mini WUs are 1/8 the size, that the badge credit would be split 1 to 8 as well).

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Well, you could add a small capital letter in the lower left or right corner, like M for Mini and C or regular Collatz. Letter color designates CPU or GPU work. Or just use colored dots like Red for Mini CPU, Blue for Mini GPU, etc...

Since only total credit was tracked in the past, maybe have a different badge for that so past crunchers do not feel left out.

Anyhoot just my 2%.
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Message 16898 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 11:12:51 UTC - in response to Message 16894.

Slicker wrote:
chip wrote:
Circle 28x28 pixel with transparency:



I'm thinking of having different badges for the mini WUs than the other apps. To show that the badge is for mini, should the badges be half the size (but still be 28x28px)?

Secondly, if I do badges by app instead of total credit, that only works for new WUs since prior to yesterday, the validator tracked only total credit and not credits by app. I have no way of figuring out which previous credits came from which apps, so the badges would either have to ignore any work done so far or I need to come up with a way to divide the credits (e.g. assume that since mini WUs are 1/8 the size, that the badge credit would be split 1 to 8 as well).

Thoughts?


Well, you could add a small capital letter in the lower left or right corner, like M for Mini and C or regular Collatz. Letter color designates CPU or GPU work. Or just use colored dots like Red for Mini CPU, Blue for Mini GPU, etc...

Since only total credit was tracked in the past, maybe have a different badge for that so past crunchers do not feel left out.

Anyhoot just my 2%.


I like the dots part, the general color of the badge could be for a specific credit amount, then the dots inside it would indicate red for mini, black for regular, and then a c for cpu and a g for gpu usage, also inside the circle. This would mean red dots on a red circle would be tough to see though.

I guess you could also just put the words cpu or gpu and mini above and below the center line too. If the word mini is not there it would mean regular. In this case the color of the badge would indicate total credits earned. So you could have a sliver badge for cpu mini, cpu regular, gpu mini and gpu regular.

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