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[AF>HFR>RR] ThierryH
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Message 4184 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 17:13:25 UTC
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Slicker,

I know all the work you do, and all the work SETI.USA does for BOINC, but some teammates and I think that putting a button on BoincManager in purpose to join your team is a little bit too “aggressive”. Perhaps put something tenderer like “Provide by SETI.USA” on Collatz site home page will be more appreciate by everyone.

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Thierry.

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Message 4194 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 20:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 4184.
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Slicker,

I know all the work you do, and all the work SETI.USA does for BOINC, but some teammates and I think that putting a button on BoincManager in purpose to join your team is a little bit too “aggressive”. Perhaps put something tenderer like “Provide by SETI.USA” on Collatz site home page will be more appreciate by everyone.

Regards,
Thierry.

Hey Whooooaaaaa. Sorry, my horse is suddenly startled.

SETI? What, here in Collatz? USA? Please excuse, I'm Ukrainian.

It's your project, and I'm happy to support you Slicker, but please let's keep the pleading for SETI and USA in the recruitment thread (preferably in some project called SETI). Thanks.
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Message 4214 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 11:25:18 UTC
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Hi,

It's not very fair play from you bar "Join the Team Seti.Usa" on boinc Collatz.

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Message 4263 - Posted: 8 Dec 2009, 5:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 4214.

The next week end. I switch on Milky a fair project.
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Message 4512 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 9:45:18 UTC

I switch to PrimeGrid (AP26 project).
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Message 4520 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 17:52:58 UTC

Hi,

I'm a member of AF and as others, I think that putting a button on BoincManager in purpose to join your team isn't in the right place.
After 15 days of first post, no answer.
Sliker, can you bring us an answer, plz?

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Message 4521 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 20:36:11 UTC

I have yet to hear a reasonable arguement as to what makes it unfair. To me, saying it is unfair implies I have done something you cannot do. That isn't true in this case. You can purchase a server, router and network access. You are free to download and install the BOINC server software, create a project, develop applications for that project, spend hours administering the project. You can then add a button to your project that says "Join Team AF" or whatever you like.

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Message 4523 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 21:27:40 UTC - in response to Message 4521.

Hi Slicker,


I consider that a project must be neutral, only serve science and its admin is expected to consider all teams, all crunchers equally.

By promoting one or another team, this is likely to create some doubts about the partiality of the project admin team, and worse, about the objectives of the project.

It is thus in the interest of the project to ensure that neutrality.

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Message 4525 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 21:56:47 UTC

Hi Slicker,

I think we asked and your answer is fair enough for me. Thanks for all that you put into this project. Please add whatever buttons you like, preferebly including one that says "This is just one button in a very fine project".



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Message 4526 - Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 22:41:27 UTC

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Message 4529 - Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 0:14:46 UTC



Slick..

Could you add a button "Download Porn Here"

Please

Thanks!!

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Message 4532 - Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 8:10:17 UTC - in response to Message 4529.

Between the devil and the deep sea.

Kevin, do you really think what you write ?

If yes: a man is as old as he feels.

That exactly because of this, I don't want to crunch for a project.

Next week, you can add some ads for powder machine or ...


It's never too late to mend.

Merry advertising see you, well I don(t know...


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Message 4535 - Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 9:44:09 UTC

I don't personally have any problems with Slicker putting ads for groups that support the cause. If my Team, The Final Front Ear, were to send Slicker something he needed I think it would be appropriate to put something up thanking them too. The point here is that Seti.USA did do that and our Teams did not. Slicker I say go for it as one little link can be ignored or enjoyed, I don't see it anyway! I know running a Project can be super expensive and time consuming, expressing your thanks for someone that helped is fine by me!

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Message 4560 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 0:10:46 UTC


I vote for Kevint's porn button. All the credits go to the projects whichever button you press to join a team, and whether you have a sense of humour or not.



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Message 4561 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 1:46:59 UTC - in response to Message 4547.

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On this final note let me tell you my computer doesn�t need your project as your project doesn�t need my computer also.
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Message 4565 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 9:28:55 UTC

Very clever Crunch3r, very.
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Message 4566 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 9:32:06 UTC - in response to Message 4547.

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Message 4568 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 9:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 4561.
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No one cares ?
You don't, but we do.

Promoting Susa is not the problem. I, and I guess everyone are thankfully for what you (Slicker, Crunch3r, etc...) did with this project and also with others projects.

But the way how you're doing it, is the issue.
Your project can promote Susa, fair enough. A link on the main page project, fair enough too.
Join Susa to thanks them (Well to thanks not really the team, but a couple of members in fact), fine too !

But using Boinc Manager to do so it's not even right in my point of view.
BM hasn't been developped to promote team....But to promote project !

I would rather prefer a bottom with "Donation" or if you don't need money, I'm fine with "Thanks the project" and then a redirection on a page explaining how to thanks the project (ie Join Susa).

It's not about being fair...as you perfectly explained what unfair was, but about the BM's neutrality !

It just won't be acceptable that BM is being used to promote any particular team. The "Teams game" (Which team has the biggest one) has some implied limits, and this time we (YOU, but also WE, as letting you doing that) have cross the line.

Edit : Mikey, you're right, in any case, we have to continue to crunch without being disgusted by this.

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Message 4569 - Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 12:03:51 UTC - in response to Message 4568.


Edit : Mikey, you're right, in any case, we have to continue to crunch without being disgusted by this.


Yes Mikey is right, and I'm glad I have Collatz as a project option. I don't really care for this notion that promoting a team is disgusting. Slicker is quite entitled to do it on the project he created and owns and nobody is forced to patronize this project. In any case, my signature is far bigger than his, almost as big as Crunch3r's care-o-meter, so you should join my team. Which is, emmm, I'm not sure right now.


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