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Message 6412 - Posted: 5 Mar 2010, 12:34:13 UTC - in response to Message 6410.

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Message 19858 - Posted: 14 Sep 2014, 10:25:26 UTC - in response to Message 6410.

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Message 19882 - Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 4:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 6410.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?
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Message 19883 - Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 10:57:40 UTC - in response to Message 19882.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!

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Message 19884 - Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 12:47:51 UTC - in response to Message 19883.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!


But like I said, it's impossible to compute every number down to 1. Besides, there comes a point (somewhere after quadrillions) where nobody counts that high.
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Message 19885 - Posted: 27 Sep 2014, 10:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 19884.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!


But like I said, it's impossible to compute every number down to 1. Besides, there comes a point (somewhere after quadrillions) where nobody counts that high.


Why can't we count that high, we are using pc's now not our fingers? And no person will fly to Pluto in our lifetime, yet Nasa sent a spacecraft PAST that point and it's still going! Science is not about 'we can't', Science is about 'why CAN'T we'. It's okay if you stop, the rest of us will carry on without you, people come and go all the time.

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Message 19886 - Posted: 27 Sep 2014, 13:15:10 UTC - in response to Message 19885.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!


But like I said, it's impossible to compute every number down to 1. Besides, there comes a point (somewhere after quadrillions) where nobody counts that high.


Why can't we count that high, we are using pc's now not our fingers? And no person will fly to Pluto in our lifetime, yet Nasa sent a spacecraft PAST that point and it's still going! Science is not about 'we can't', Science is about 'why CAN'T we'. It's okay if you stop, the rest of us will carry on without you, people come and go all the time.


But isn't it a waste of computing power if no solution will ever be found? There are projects out there that could actually help people and actually solve problems, but this one will never have a solution.
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Message 19892 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 5:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 19884.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!


But like I said, it's impossible to compute every number down to 1. Besides, there comes a point (somewhere after quadrillions) where nobody counts that high.


In fact what we need is a counter-example of Collatz conjecture by crouching all numbers, or more efficiently, numbers that have less than certain "glide" steps.

PS. It's proven that most (but not all) numbers will drop to 1 eventually (Please google "Terra's theorem").
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Message 19894 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 10:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 19886.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!


But like I said, it's impossible to compute every number down to 1. Besides, there comes a point (somewhere after quadrillions) where nobody counts that high.


Why can't we count that high, we are using pc's now not our fingers? And no person will fly to Pluto in our lifetime, yet Nasa sent a spacecraft PAST that point and it's still going! Science is not about 'we can't', Science is about 'why CAN'T we'. It's okay if you stop, the rest of us will carry on without you, people come and go all the time.


But isn't it a waste of computing power if no solution will ever be found? There are projects out there that could actually help people and actually solve problems, but this one will never have a solution.


This is becoming a circular discussion, you are making assumptions, just like the Collatz Conjecture! Prove to me that it will NEVER be solved and I will leave, until then I choose to crunch here! Just remember NEVER is a VERY long time, and with computers we can calculate pretty fast!

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Message 19897 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 12:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 19894.

Remind me why we're endlessly crunching on this project? It's impossible to compute every number down to 1 with this theory, so when is it decided "true"?


When we have computed every number down to 1 of course! Crunching thru Boinc is about choices, you can crunch here, there or even everywhere, your choice. On of the REALLY nice things about Collatz is the Admin who runs the Project, he is very responsive when problems arise and as a result the Project is up 99% of the time. To me that alone makes it my go to project when I need to just put my pc's on cruise control for a bit. Solving a math problem is another bonus for me!


But like I said, it's impossible to compute every number down to 1. Besides, there comes a point (somewhere after quadrillions) where nobody counts that high.


Why can't we count that high, we are using pc's now not our fingers? And no person will fly to Pluto in our lifetime, yet Nasa sent a spacecraft PAST that point and it's still going! Science is not about 'we can't', Science is about 'why CAN'T we'. It's okay if you stop, the rest of us will carry on without you, people come and go all the time.


But isn't it a waste of computing power if no solution will ever be found? There are projects out there that could actually help people and actually solve problems, but this one will never have a solution.


This is becoming a circular discussion, you are making assumptions, just like the Collatz Conjecture! Prove to me that it will NEVER be solved and I will leave, until then I choose to crunch here! Just remember NEVER is a VERY long time, and with computers we can calculate pretty fast!


Numbers go on forever. Even with super fast computers, you'll just find bigger and bigger numbers with more and more digits. However, this leads me to ask how other mathmatical theories were proven...
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Message 19901 - Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 2:27:04 UTC - in response to Message 19897.


Numbers go on forever. Even with super fast computers, you'll just find bigger and bigger numbers with more and more digits. However, this leads me to ask how other mathmatical theories were proven...


Sometimes a scheme that goes on forever is used (aka mathematical induction). However the behavior of Collatz conjecture is just too random to do mathematical induction.
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