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![]() Project administrator Send message Joined: 11 Jun 09 Posts: 79 Credit: 943,644,517 RAC: 0 |
None of the WUs should ever end up as inconclusive because they are either valid or not. The validation is done within the WU. e.g. the CPU WUs doulble check every new "high" using a separate algorithm and if they don't agree, it fails. If they do, it should validate. There shouldn't an "inconclusive". I'm going to turn off the file deleter so that once I figure out what is going on I can re-validate the tasks so you should get credit. The issue was because BOINC, being stupid as usual, was rejecting the WUs because it didn't like the FLOPS count. LOL. There are no FLOPS in Collatz. Only integer calculations. So, I edited credit.cpp and commented out all the stupid code and re-validated all inconclusive WUs. |
Gero-T Send message Joined: 9 Oct 16 Posts: 9 Credit: 57,231,987,399 RAC: 0 |
why do you use http://..... ? use [/b]https://... !! |
[AF>Le_Pommier] Jerome_C2005 Send message Joined: 27 Jun 12 Posts: 13 Credit: 396,599,660 RAC: 123,636 |
Hi Slicker just to mention : https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/forum_thread.php?id=25 In case you don't (have time to) check all the forum. Thanks. |
Woodles Send message Joined: 29 Oct 09 Posts: 3 Credit: 18,669,632,441 RAC: 8 |
Well after spending 24 hours asking for work and not getting a single workunit I decided to experiment. I have my primary profile set to a resource share of 0 so that I can disable projects remotely just be changing the location of each host. Normally, the hosts run under location "school" with a resource share of 1000. I noticed previously that when asking for work, the GPU had an apparent share of 0.00 so I changed the primary setting to have a resource share of 1000, set the default location to "---" (the primary one), removed the project then added it back and now the error messages are listing the share as 0.50 (I'm also running Moo with a resource share of 1000) ... and I'm getting work! 17/05/2018 22:15:31 | collatz | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 17/05/2018 22:15:31 | collatz | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU 17/05/2018 22:15:31 | collatz | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices 17/05/2018 22:15:31 | collatz | [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 86261.29 seconds; 0.50 devices 17/05/2018 22:15:34 | collatz | Scheduler request completed: got 101 new tasks 17/05/2018 22:15:34 | collatz | [sched_op] Server version 711 17/05/2018 22:15:34 | collatz | Project requested delay of 121 seconds It would appear that for some reason the preferences no longer get updated when using profiles other than the primary one. |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 09 Posts: 17 Credit: 111,996,128 RAC: 0 |
None of the WUs should ever end up as inconclusive because they are either valid or not. The validation is done within the WU. e.g. the CPU WUs doulble check every new "high" using a separate algorithm and if they don't agree, it fails. If they do, it should validate. There shouldn't an "inconclusive". I'm going to turn off the file deleter so that once I figure out what is going on I can re-validate the tasks so you should get credit. Again thanks for your hard work here Slicker. I had a Windows work unit that ran for 540,000 or so seconds, then had a Linux WU that ran for 420,000 or so seconds, they both disappeared without credit. I think that I recieved credit that was for those two work units about 2 days ago, it all went to one computer but that is not a concern. Since then I have another 2 WUs on different Linux machines that went from inconclusive to pending yesterday, but they also have disappeared without credit. One ran for 420,700 seconds and the other ran for 786,630 seconds. So I still have an RAC of 0.00 and I am still thankful you let me post. Another WU has downloaded on my Windows computer, so the fun starts again. Conan |
rcthardcore Send message Joined: 15 May 10 Posts: 12 Credit: 143,518,830 RAC: 15,923 |
Even though nobody has answered my original question about who the user was that was cheating, not sure what this will do but will give it a try. Thanks for the info and help. |
Padanian Send message Joined: 28 May 10 Posts: 15 Credit: 3,343,003,450 RAC: 2,804,051 |
Strange behaviour for two specific wu: https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/workunit.php?wuid=912326 https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/workunit.php?wuid=917872 CPU calculation for another user is validated without credit given, while my calculation is considered invalid. |
[AF>Le_Pommier] Jerome_C2005 Send message Joined: 27 Jun 12 Posts: 13 Credit: 396,599,660 RAC: 123,636 |
Great news : - Mac OS ATI OpenCL tasks now on air - they are working ! - they take 5,5 hours to run on my old Radeon HD 4850 (...) Not that great news : they use almost one CPU core (0,929), much more than the old app used to... Do I have to exclude one core in boinc preferences so it will run more efficiently ? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Aug 09 Posts: 963 Credit: 24,557,133,931 RAC: 46,225 |
Great news : Try it and see, exclude one cpu core and see if they run faster, if not go back to not excluding a cpu core. |
Anthony Ayiomamitis Send message Joined: 21 Jan 15 Posts: 14 Credit: 10,000,363,396 RAC: 0 |
Do I have to exclude one core in boinc preferences so it will run more efficiently ? I would not rely too much on what BOINC shows in this regard. For example, with my 1080 running Collatz, the CPU contribution is less than one second total time for each unit. Also, I have left one logical core (ie one thread) available for Collatz and which is at best 12.5% of what is available (ie one thread out of eight threads on my quad core i7 6700k). Of course, precisely the opposite with my 1080 and which constantly shows 99-100% utilization. |
[AF>Le_Pommier] Jerome_C2005 Send message Joined: 27 Jun 12 Posts: 13 Credit: 396,599,660 RAC: 123,636 |
Thanks for your answers, i'll try the exclusion and see if it changes execution time. Unfortunately on the Mac (at least on mine with my old GPU) there are no tool (that I know) that inform about the actual use of the GPU while the task is running, like with Windows of Linux. The only test I could do with PrimeGrid OpenCL ATI tasks is having 2 tasks running at the same time and their execution time has been doubled, so useless. But PG tasks require only 0,01% of CPU (officially)... I'll also do this test with Collatz. |
JMrkvicka Send message Joined: 25 Jul 17 Posts: 13 Credit: 1,462,495,252 RAC: 0 |
Any reason to not install the new BOINC client version 7.10.2? |
Plomos Send message Joined: 27 Apr 11 Posts: 1 Credit: 20,963,430 RAC: 0 |
I briefly installed boinc 7.10.2 and my AMD card was not detected in boinc so I went back to the old version AMD 6870 radeon |
Alessandro Freda Send message Joined: 23 Oct 09 Posts: 4 Credit: 1,430,152,338 RAC: 7,809 |
@Alessandro : There is no work available for all platforms / OS / GPUs at the moment, Slicker is working on priorities right now, be patient ! Ok, after a month I can't get works yet. I've detach and attach with new client 7.10.2 (https), and try to get works on 2 PC (first with a Radeon 7790, 2nd with intel GPU) that before works without problems. I think the main problem is that the collatz work dir stay empty, it can downdown even the executable, on both PCs, so I suspect the problem could be on my user entry on server. |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 09 Posts: 17 Credit: 111,996,128 RAC: 0 |
@Alessandro : There is no work available for all platforms / OS / GPUs at the moment, Slicker is working on priorities right now, be patient ! What happens if you add <http_1_0>1</http_1_0> to your cc_config.xml file? I was given this to try when for the last month I have not been able to download or even contact goofyxgrid@home and get work, then with this it all worked. It changes the standard request http 1.1 to 1.0 I think. Goes in the options section like this <cc_config> <options> <http_1_0>1</http_1_0> </options> </cc_config> It may alreadt be in your cc_config.xml file, if you have one, but will have a 0 instead of a 1 in the middle. Conan |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 May 18 Posts: 16 Credit: 94,121,060 RAC: 743 |
For download purposes the Open CL version is 2.0 correct ? Could that be preventing some devices from down loading ? I have heard that not all OS loads with the vanilla drivers support Open CL or the 2.0 level. Bill F P.S. If you could take a peek at Team creation to see if it could be easily turned back on it would be helpful for us new Teams In October of 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. ![]() |
Alessandro Freda Send message Joined: 23 Oct 09 Posts: 4 Credit: 1,430,152,338 RAC: 7,809 |
[quote][quote]Ok, after a month I can't get works yet. Yes I had a 0 in my cc_config file, after switch to 1, and restart BOINC got this log: 05/06/2018 18:42:33 | | Fetching configuration file from https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/get_project_config.php 05/06/2018 18:42:47 | collatz | Master file download succeeded 05/06/2018 18:42:52 | collatz | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. 05/06/2018 18:42:52 | collatz | Requesting new tasks for CPU and AMD/ATI GPU 05/06/2018 18:42:54 | collatz | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 05/06/2018 18:42:54 | collatz | No tasks sent 05/06/2018 18:42:54 | collatz | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them 05/06/2018 18:42:54 | collatz | Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them 05/06/2018 18:42:54 | collatz | Tasks for Intel GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them 05/06/2018 18:42:54 | collatz | New computer location: work Notice the work location, is for PC with ATI 7790 GPU. The projects\boinc.thesonntags.com_collatz dir continue to stay empty. |
Michael Send message Joined: 31 Oct 10 Posts: 19 Credit: 135,769,445 RAC: 0 |
Still not fixed ?? Everytime they show up like this ZERO credits are issued. WHY??? 2768965 2405700 44441 10 Jun 2018, 9:34:31 UTC 16 Jun 2018, 5:01:53 UTC Completed, validation inconclusive 498,386.86 396,562.60 pending Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 2768966 2405747 44441 10 Jun 2018, 9:34:31 UTC 16 Jun 2018, 2:30:08 UTC Completed, validation inconclusive 489,283.83 387,497.40 pending Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 2768973 2461808 44441 10 Jun 2018, 9:34:31 UTC 16 Jun 2018, 3:36:18 UTC Completed, validation inconclusive 493,272.95 391,351.30 pending Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 |
Michael Send message Joined: 31 Oct 10 Posts: 19 Credit: 135,769,445 RAC: 0 |
Yea but WTF constantly getting these 2768965 2405700 44441 10 Jun 2018, 9:34:31 UTC 16 Jun 2018, 5:01:53 UTC Completed and validated 498,386.86 396,562.60 0.00 Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 2768966 2405747 44441 10 Jun 2018, 9:34:31 UTC 16 Jun 2018, 2:30:08 UTC Completed and validated 489,283.83 387,497.40 0.00 Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 2768973 2461808 44441 10 Jun 2018, 9:34:31 UTC 16 Jun 2018, 3:36:18 UTC Completed and validated 493,272.95 391,351.30 0.00 Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 So I guess you get free computer use. |
Michael Send message Joined: 31 Oct 10 Posts: 19 Credit: 135,769,445 RAC: 0 |
And yet another 2851530 2539659 44441 11 Jun 2018, 16:53:58 UTC 17 Jun 2018, 9:39:53 UTC Completed, validation inconclusive 492,179.40 390,542.40 pending Collatz Sieve v1.40 windows_x86_64 |
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