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Message 23380 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 14:11:14 UTC

The Collatz site will be completely down later today for major maintenance. There appears to be disk corruption causing database errors which is why the assimilator is not working. What I don't know yet is whether the corruption affects more than just one database table. The work generators are offline as I don't want to create any more work as I don't know how long it will be down to restore/repair the corrupted database table(s).

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Message 23384 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 22:53:42 UTC

The server is currently up and running but it is taking a while to remove the over one million spam accounts that have been created recently. In general, any account that has been perceived to be a spam account (e.g. no hosts and no credit and not a team leader) will be removed.

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Message 23388 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 10:47:57 UTC - in response to Message 23384.

I hope it has not spread to any of the processors out here
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Message 23390 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 13:10:59 UTC - in response to Message 23388.

No, the spam is due to the fact that you can create accounts via remote procedure calls (a.k.a. sending BOINC formatted data to the BOINC web server) without using reCaptcha or any other spam filter. Collatz doesn't allow posting to forums unless the user has credit. The same goes for profiles. So, there's not really any spam, just fake accounts (1.5 million) that were created that had to be deleted. If they keep it up, I'll turn on the invite code which will be a pain but will at least stop them. That or disable joining a project from the client and only allow the account to be set up via the web interface.

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Message 23391 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 13:42:08 UTC
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I came here because I saw some real haywire stuff in the BOINC standings. Someone with username EG got something like 17billion credit this week alone. #4 in the world overall for non-ASIC in a week lol. I came to see what might be going on.

Then I see a warning in google in my browser that this site may be hacked...
Then I read about a million spam accounts created.
And SSL certificate issues.
Excitement to be sure.
Not sure what is going on but hopefully you can get things sorted out and I wont bother to ask about the haywire credit which I have seen a few people comment on.
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Message 23393 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 15:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 23391.

I came here because I saw some real haywire stuff in the BOINC standings. Someone with username EG got something like 17billion credit this week alone. #4 in the world overall for non-ASIC in a week lol. I came to see what might be going on.

Then I see a warning in google in my browser that this site may be hacked...
Then I read about a million spam accounts created.
And SSL certificate issues.
Excitement to be sure.
Not sure what is going on but hopefully you can get things sorted out and I wont bother to ask about the haywire credit which I have seen a few people comment on.
Cheers


Are you sure you aren't living in the past?

Per Google:
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The SSL cert was fixed a week ago.

All BOINC projects that aren't using invite codes are having to deal with the spammers including SETI and GPUGRID. The project admins are brainstorming different ways to deal with it and to prevent it in the future.

You say you won't bother to ask about the "haywire credit" but you then reference more than once and state that's why you say you visited in the first place. It's like your girlfriend saying "I'm not telling you not to go out for beers with your friends" which really means "I'm telling you NOT to go out for beers with your friends". Isn't it funny that no one comes to check everything out when they don't see credit on the site for a few days, but the credit cops always show up when they think the credit is higher than normal?


There are two employees, Joe and Sue. Joe gets paid weekly. Sue gets paid monthly. Hank starts working at the bank at the end of the month when Sue and Joe both get paid. Hank sees that Sue deposits a lot more than Joe so assumes Sue gets paid four times as much as Joe. Hank tells his friends that Sue is getting paid a haywire amount and all his friends decide to apply for work where Sue works. They get paid weekly like Joe so they all get mad that they don't get paychecks like Sue. In reality, they both are getting paid the same. Likewise, when the server is down for some time and people who don't crunch other projects have full caches of WUs which all get validated at once when the server comes back online, it seems like they get haywire credit when in reality, they are getting the same as they always do.

EG has some serious horsepower as well so when he turns in thousands of WUs at once after the server is back online, he gets lots of credit.

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Message 23398 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 20:17:52 UTC

Charming
Sorry I call BS on 17B credit in a week.
You guys have issues bro. Fix them.

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Message 23401 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 22:34:11 UTC - in response to Message 23391.
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I came here because I saw some real haywire stuff in the BOINC standings. Someone with username EG got something like 17billion credit this week alone. #4 in the world overall for non-ASIC in a week lol. I came to see what might be going on.

Then I see.......


Actually what happened is I changed e-mail addresses. And when you do that Boinc assigns a new CPID for your new e-mail addy. since all stats sites pull stats by CPID number, it appears to you that I just joined today and magically have tons of completed work in a few minutes.

Not the case here. I just moved up to #4 boinc non-bitcoin a couple of days ago. I had been #6 for a number of months.

Also if you look at the absolute high steps page you will see I set the record for high number of steps three years ago as a member of a different team.

Been a member of Collatz since 6/2013.

Jon works very hard to keep the project running smoothly since this is a one man operation. the problem he is fixing are problems that come more from the advancement of tech and peoples ability to use such for nefarious purposes. (spamming anything and everything they can)

He does an excellent job of keeping up with it as best he can. Given the slow responses from some projects with large teams of people, I would say does a yeoman's job at it.

Most of the issues are resolved.

Cheers


To you to also!

EG
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Message 23416 - Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 18:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 23401.

I came here because I saw some real haywire stuff in the BOINC standings. Someone with username EG got something like 17billion credit this week alone. #4 in the world overall for non-ASIC in a week lol. I came to see what might be going on.

Then I see.......


Actually what happened is I changed e-mail addresses. And when you do that Boinc assigns a new CPID for your new e-mail addy. since all stats sites pull stats by CPID number, it appears to you that I just joined today and magically have tons of completed work in a few minutes.

Not the case here. I just moved up to #4 boinc non-bitcoin a couple of days ago. I had been #6 for a number of months.

Also if you look at the absolute high steps page you will see I set the record for high number of steps three years ago as a member of a different team.

Been a member of Collatz since 6/2013.

Jon works very hard to keep the project running smoothly since this is a one man operation. the problem he is fixing are problems that come more from the advancement of tech and peoples ability to use such for nefarious purposes. (spamming anything and everything they can)

He does an excellent job of keeping up with it as best he can. Given the slow responses from some projects with large teams of people, I would say does a yeoman's job at it.

Most of the issues are resolved.

Cheers


To you to also!

EG


EG has a lot of 7990/7970 GPUs. The points are real. #1 in Collatz and Moo.

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Message 23445 - Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 19:12:32 UTC

It seems perhaps that the major maintenance fixed some things but at the same time has left a degree of server instability in place. I recall perhaps about a year ago the Collatz server was in something approaching a weekly crash mode.

Seems we're back in that place at the moment.

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Message 23448 - Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 23:21:35 UTC

Sometime between now and March, my business' data center will be moving since the building is being torn down. In the mean time, I'm watching for deals on servers. Maybe cyber-Monday will have some good deals.

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Message 23451 - Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 2:18:33 UTC - in response to Message 23448.

Best of luck -- with the upgrades and transition. Please keep us in the loop as best you can.
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Message 23496 - Posted: 2 Dec 2016, 19:48:27 UTC

Jon - I would look at Dell Outlet http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandId=2880&c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb and see if any of these fit into your plans. I use them often for servers at Grocery stores and they workout well.


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