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Message 2446 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 14:26:45 UTC
Last modified: 30 Mar 2020, 14:38:45 UTC

I'm having GREAT issues with the new NVIDIA Web Driver (.135)!!!

My System just trashed my FINAL SETI Units under CUDA90 App
AND gives Compute Errors here with Driver 387.10.10.10.40.135,
and I DON'T know what's wrong.

System: Hackintosh-Andromeda, Computer ID: 845444

i7 7700K @4.2 GHz, CoolerMaster Hyper212-EVO
Gigabyte H270-HD3 MOBO
32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2400MHz RAM
[EDIT:] Primary GPU: (GPU0) - MacVidCards GTX-1070 8GB GDDR5 VRAM
Secondary GPU: (GPU1) - EVGA GTX-1050 2GB GDDR5 VRAM
(Due to the different Card Models, Collatz refuses to utilize the 1050 under the
DEFECTIVE Web Driver. OpenCL ONLY functions on the Primary Card - the 1070.)

System has been off for 9+ Days, as I went on a trip.
Got back on Saturday the 28th, and turned the System on
yesterday, the 29th. Updated to (17G12034) WITHOUT
issues or errors. Updated NVIDIA Web Driver to (.135) WITHOUT
issues.

Just Launched Battle.net App and started StarCraft:Remastered.
NO ISSUES with the game...

I'm at a loss as to WHY I CANNOT Crunch anymore! Any and
all help appreciated. In addition, to keep from trashing anymore
Units, I just Aborted my ENTIRE Queue of work here at Collatz.


TimeLord04


[EDIT 2:]

Task 70272257

Name collatz_sieve_f10f5927-d0cd-407d-8802-0b8c714c529e_0
Workunit 64183642
Created 30 Mar 2020, 11:08:21 UTC
Sent 30 Mar 2020, 11:16:56 UTC
Report deadline 13 Apr 2020, 11:16:56 UTC
Received 30 Mar 2020, 11:58:27 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Computation error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 197 (0x000000C5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED
Computer ID 845444
Run time 18 min 51 sec
CPU time 2 min 13 sec
Validate state Invalid
Credit 0.00
Device peak FLOPS 6,468.63 GFLOPS
Application version Collatz Sieve v1.40 (nvidia_opencl)
x86_64-apple-darwin
Peak working set size 30.25 MB
Peak swap size 4,392.41 MB
Peak disk usage 6.74 MB


Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.8.6</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
exceeded elapsed time limit 1128.53 (41733990399.97G/36980720.64G)</message>
<stderr_txt>
Collatz Conjecture Sieve 1.40 OS X x86_64 for OpenCL
Written by Slicker (Jon Sonntag) of team SETI.USA
Based on the AMD Brook+ kernels by Gipsel of team Planet 3DNow!
Sieve code and OpenCL optimization provided by Sosiris of team BOINC@Taiwan
kernels_per_reduction=48
threads=10
lut_size=17
sieve_size=27
cache_sieve=1
sleep=0

Collatz Config Settings:
verbose 1 (yes)
kernels/reduction 48
threads 2^10 (1024)
lut_size 17 (1048576 bytes)
sieve_size 2^27 (7049172 bytes)
sleep 1
cache_sieve 1 (yes)
reducecpu 0 (no)
Processor Type NVIDIA
Max Dimensions 3
Max Work Items 1024 1024 64
Max Work Groups 1024
Max Kernel Threads 1024
Device Vendor NVIDIA
Name GeForce GTX 1070
Driver Version 10.33.0 387.10.10.10.40.135
OpenCL Version OpenCL 1.2
Device Vendor NVIDIA
Name GeForce GTX 1070
Driver Version 10.33.0 387.10.10.10.40.135
OpenCL Version OpenCL 1.2
actual threads 1024
7574829569251217510607 - 1187 steps @ 0.219251
7574829569252224277659 - 1218 steps @ 0.219424
7574829569251352585343 - 1223 steps @ 0.219563
7574829569252705731839 - 1249 steps @ 0.219704
7574829569253914461647 - 1360 steps @ 0.219842
7574829569251640633823 - 1474 steps @ 0.219983
7574829569251603993727 - 1580 steps @ 0.220123
7574829569257383528927 - 1642 steps @ 0.325738
7574829569313186697467 - 1766 steps @ 1.54519
7574829569418083192687 - 1779 steps @ 3.99918
7574829570087188004287 - 1903 steps @ 19.9528
7574829578119150202623 - 2053 steps @ 212.462

</stderr_txt>
]]>

---------------------- End StdErr Rpt. ----------------------

NOTE: All was working fine on Driver (.134) and (17G11023).


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Message 2448 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 23:19:59 UTC
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It's REALLY weird... Event Log shows NO CHANGES, NO ERRORS...

I shut down BOINC yesterday after all the Compute Errors.
I unplugged the HDMI Cable from the 1070, plugged it into the 1050.
After 30 Seconds, I unplugged the HDMI, (2.0), Cable from the 1050
and plugged it back into the 1070. I restarted calculations...
STILL got Compute Errors. I shut down BOINC again.

Today I checked EVERYTHING again. The Computer was left on
ALL night. BOINC was COMPLETELY shut down until just a few
moments ago.

I've Resumed the ability to Request Tasks, and Resumed Crunching
for TWO Units on the GTX-1070. 198 other Units are currently Suspended
until someone looks over my StdErr Rpt from my last Post.

Here is today's Event Log:


Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.8.6 for x86_64-apple-darwin
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.50.2 OpenSSL/1.1.0 zlib/1.2.11 c-ares/1.11.0
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 10.1.163, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 1050 (driver version 10.1.163, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 2048MB, 1817MB available, 1862 GFLOPS peak)

Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 10.33.0 387.10.10.10.40.135, device version OpenCL 1.2, 8192MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Apple, driver version 1.1, device version OpenCL 1.2)
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Host name: Andromeda.local
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9]
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clfsh ds acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pbe pni pclmulqdq dtes64 mon dscpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 tpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt aes pcid xsave osxsave seglim64 tsctmr avx rdrand f16c
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | OS: Mac OS X 10.13.6 (Darwin 17.7.0)
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Memory: 32.00 GB physical, 688.15 GB virtual
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Disk: 953.67 GB total, 686.96 GB free
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Local time is UTC -7 hours

Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | collatz | Found app_config.xml
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | Einstein@Home | Found app_config.xml
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Config: use all coprocessors
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | A new version of BOINC is available (7.14.3). <a href=https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php>Download</a>
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | collatz | URL https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 845444; resource share 225
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 12215702; resource share 175
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7952666; resource share 365
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | SETI@home Beta Test | URL http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/; Computer ID 78425; resource share 150
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | collatz | General prefs: from collatz (last modified 07-Apr-2019 00:23:17)
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | collatz | Computer location: home
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | collatz | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Reading preferences override file
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Preferences:
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | max memory usage when active: 11468.80 MB
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | max memory usage when idle: 16384.00 MB
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | max disk usage: 30.00 GB
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | max CPUs used: 4

Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
Mon Mar 30 16:00:41 2020 | | Suspending computation - time of day


--------------------- End Event Log - 3-30-2020 ---------------------


CUDA Driver is stated as FUNCTIONAL for SETI@Home. Yet ALL Units
Crunched on BOTH GPUs FAILED with "Best Pulse = 0" EVEN after
resetting the GPUs by switching the HDMI Cable between BOTH Cards.

OpenCL for the 1070 is stated as FUNCTIONAL for Collatz. Yet ALL Units
Crunched yesterday ended in Compute Error.

I'm at a loss here.


TimeLord04

[EDIT:]

Turned Andromeda COMPLETELY off, even
cut the Power at the PSU by turning the switch
on the PSU to Off. I waited five minutes to make
sure ALL power had been drained from the MOBO.

Powered the System back On. Cycled the GPUs
again by switching the HDMI Cable between the Cards,
waiting 30 Seconds and switching the Cable back to the
Primary GPU - the 1070.

Resumed Crunching. Got 4 MORE Compute Errors.

I just can't crunch anymore on this Computer.

I aborted the remaining 196 Tasks.


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Message 2450 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 0:22:44 UTC

3-30-2020 at 5:22 PM - PDT

I currently believe the Compute Cores
on both my Cards have failed.

I'm ceasing ALL Crunching permanently
until such time as I gain enough funds
to replace my Cards.

SOMEHOW, the people in Blizzard's WoW
Forum NOW believe that RTX Cards WILL
begin to function in MacOS Catalina 10.15.x,
but InsanelyMac has NO current Info on this.

Until such time as I have sufficient funds to
replace my Cards, ($350 or more for an AMD
Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card or can
confirm that RTX Cards WILL EVENTUALLY make
their way into Catalina and I have funds for two
RTX-2070 Cards), I am ceasing ALL Crunching
Activity on Andromeda.


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Message 2451 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 3:12:05 UTC

3-30-2020 at 8:12 PM - PDT

RE: RTX in MacOS

Blizzard's WoW Forum: Thread - iMac Advice.

In the above Link, this Thread in the Blizzard Forum for WoW mentions Catalina may soon
have RTX Support.

Something for Mac NVIDIA Users to hope for. Whether or not they decide to go further
and allow Mojave to have Web Drivers with Turing, (RTX), Support is anyone's guess.
Again, one can hope.


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Message 2466 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 3:26:41 UTC - in response to Message 2450.  

Total bummer about your failed GPUs.

Do you need an EFI flashed card (to allow you to see the MacOS boot screen)? If so, and if you are looking for the fastest thing out there, MacVidCards is taking pre-orders for the EFI-flashed AMD 5700XT. The price of this GPU ($675 + S/H) is pushing down the price of the EFI AMD RX 580s ($300 - $330 at MacVidCards). As an intermediate, what about the EFI AMD Vega 56 ($450)? My AMD Vega 56 (in an Akitio Node Titan eGPU connected to a MacMini - ID 864357) produces about 6 M Collatz credits/day. Just be aware that the AMD Vega 56 is notoriously hungry for power.
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Message 2467 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 3:49:35 UTC - in response to Message 2450.  

If it were me, before I gave up on my GPUs, I would use Geekbench to test each one individually (deinstall one, then swap in the other) to make sure that the compute cores were truly dead. It's hard to believe that both GPUs would die at the same time, unless your house experienced a power surge, lightning strike, or the like.

Moreover, recall that I am unable to get OS X 10.13.6 to recognize two OpenCL-driven GPUs of ANY kind - I tried to run two GTX 1070s in a MacPro 5,1 under 10.13.6 and failed miserably - the OpenCL driver would access only one of the GPUs. Was able to get them both to work in a MacPro 5,1 under 10.12.6. So, is downgrading your OS an option? I might try that before throwing away my GPUs and shopping for replacements.

Hang in there!
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Message 2471 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 16:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 2467.  

One more idea. I know that you probably don't have any other MacPro 5,1s sitting around, but do any of your friends have one where you could briefly test your 1050 and 1070?

I am finding that crunching for Collatz plays to my OCD nature in ways that impact my wallet and my free time. :-)
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Message 2474 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 4:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 2471.  

One more idea. I know that you probably don't have any other MacPro 5,1s sitting around, but do any of your friends have one where you could briefly test your 1050 and 1070?

I am finding that crunching for Collatz plays to my OCD nature in ways that impact my wallet and my free time. :-)

Once I have funds to get ONE AMD/ATI Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card from MacVidCards,
I will be moving the 1070 over to Daedalus. WHEN that happens I'll also pull Daedalus's 1050 and put
back in the ATI HD-5770 1GB Card for Sierra 10.12.1. This means getting a new monitor as Primary
monitor for Daedalus and moving the Apple Cinema Display - 23" to the ATI HD-5770.

This all assumes, (like you), that the 1070 and 1050 currently in Hackintosh-Andromeda REALLY
AREN'T fried, and that it's all the (.135) Driver.... HOWEVER; this plan ALSO requires, (like you),
that I get an External PSU for the 1070, as the 1070 is 8-Pin. I'll end up running just the 5770
on the internal 6-Pin connector from the MOBO. On MacVidCards, there's a whole Sub-Forum
about NOT running an 8-Pin Card from just ONE 6-Pin Power Port on a Cheese-Grater... The fact
that I plan to run TWO Cards requiring Power REALLY means I SHOULD get an External PSU for
the 1070. Anyway, this ALL takes money I just DON'T have right now.

IF I can make all this work.... I plan to get a 4K Monitor for Hackintosh-Andromeda, and then
move her existing 27" 1080p Monitor over to Daedalus. The 27" will run off the 1070 and the
Apple Cinema Display - 23" will run off the HD-5770 Card.

I figure that all entailed that ROUGHLY $1K today would do all this. So, waiting a year and
saving in the meantime, prices SHOULD come down. (In fact my 1070 on MacVidCards just
DROPPED from $555 to $499!!! I've NEVER seen MacVidCards drop the price of this Card
that low!) So, I have hopes that the MacVidCards RX-580 8GB Card will also come down below
$300 by the time I'm ready to do anything. The 2nd PSU for Daedalus would be a Corsair
HX750i 750 Watt Platinum PSU. (About $160 today.) I estimate that a GOOD 4K 27" Monitor
is or will be around $500+ when I'm ready to do all this.

So, by the time I'm finished, the High Powered Dual 6-Pin GTX-970 4GB Card will be retired from
Daedalus, along with her 1050 2GB Card. The 1050 in Andromeda will be retired, and Andromeda
can definitely move up to Mojave. (I'm NOT yet impressed by Catalina and the iOS-ification of MacOS
that Apple has done. Also, too many Security Changes in Catalina including separating the OS into
one Partition and the User Data into a Second Partition. (NOT including the EFI Boot Partition with
Clover Bootloader....))

Believe it or not, I EVEN STILL have my OLD EVGA GTX-760 2GB Card. For extra measure, I'm
HIGHLY thinking of, (at some point), sending that in to MacVidCards for Flashing Service. Especially
since the 760 is Native to MacOS. This would give me another Card Choice for either Andromeda
or Daedalus. In fact, the Extended Warranty on the 760 is good until 2024!!!!

Options, Options, Options AND Choices, Choices, Choices.... JUST need $1K to make it all happen.


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Message 2480 - Posted: 9 Apr 2020, 1:08:30 UTC - in response to Message 2474.  

Sounds like a reasonable plan. One thing to note - I agree with your decision to use MacVidCards as the source for your GPUs. I find them to be both reputable and knowledgeable. Have you had any luck dealing with MacVidCards-Europe? I have bought a flashed GTX 1080 (~$500) and a flashed GTX 1070 (~$300) from them via Ebay because I find their cards are cheaper than the identical cards from MacVidCards US. Shipping times are pretty decent, too. Best of all, they are legitimate partners of MacVidCards-0US: http://www.macvidcards.com/blog/now-2-eu-distributors-for-mvc-cards

I just checked eBay and they have the following items of note available:
GTX 1080 - ~$495 including shipping
GTX 1070 - ~$400 including shipping - guess I got a good deal on my purchase last year :-)

The fastest AMD card available from MacVidCards-Europe is an R9 280X for $260 - not a cost-effective option, IMHO. On the other hand, I love the idea of having your GTX 760 flashed. By the way, if you are interested in a flashed GTX 750 Ti, PM me. They are powered entirely through the PCI slot - no connection to the MBO is required. I have several and I can let one go for a price that would fit your budget.
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Message 2481 - Posted: 10 Apr 2020, 1:07:15 UTC - in response to Message 2480.  

One more thing. I would keep your eye on the price for the flashed AMD VEGA 56 at MacVidCards (currently $450). That GPU, like the RX580, is compatible with Mojave in a MacPro 5,1.

Moreover, in an Akitio Node Titan eGPU enclosure connected to a MacMini, an unflashed VEGA 56 generates ~6 million Collatz credits/day. That's significantly more than the ~3.6 million Collatz credits generated by each of my two unflashed RX 580s in OWC Mercury Helios eGPU enclosures connected to an iMac. I know that some folks say that the VEGA 56 is power hungry, noisy, and hot. I haven't done any formal measurements, but I have not observed that my VEGA 56/MacMini setup is any warmer than its predecessor (MacPro 5,1 with a GTX 1080 that generates ~6 million Collatz credits/day).

So, I think the VEGA 56 will keep you in a price-performance sweet spot longer than the RX 580. Indeed, the benchmarking I have seen indicates that the AMD 5700 XT is not significantly faster than the VEGA 56, although it reportedly draws less power and generates less heat.
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Message 2484 - Posted: 10 Apr 2020, 7:03:50 UTC - in response to Message 2481.  

One more thing. I would keep your eye on the price for the flashed AMD VEGA 56 at MacVidCards (currently $450). That GPU, like the RX580, is compatible with Mojave in a MacPro 5,1.

Moreover, in an Akitio Node Titan eGPU enclosure connected to a MacMini, an unflashed VEGA 56 generates ~6 million Collatz credits/day. That's significantly more than the ~3.6 million Collatz credits generated by each of my two unflashed RX 580s in OWC Mercury Helios eGPU enclosures connected to an iMac. I know that some folks say that the VEGA 56 is power hungry, noisy, and hot. I haven't done any formal measurements, but I have not observed that my VEGA 56/MacMini setup is any warmer than its predecessor (MacPro 5,1 with a GTX 1080 that generates ~6 million Collatz credits/day).

So, I think the VEGA 56 will keep you in a price-performance sweet spot longer than the RX 580. Indeed, the benchmarking I have seen indicates that the AMD 5700 XT is not significantly faster than the VEGA 56, although it reportedly draws less power and generates less heat.

Because of the Secondary SSD Drive with 10.12.1 and ADOBE CS-6 Suite,
I'm LIMITED to what GPUs I can put into the Mac Pro 5,1 - Daedalus.
Right now, when I boot to Sierra, ONLY the GTX-970 Card is recognized by
the System. The Secondary 1050 is "Unknown" in the Hardware Report.

Both Cards ARE recognized and worked for SETI on CUDA 418.163 Driver,
on the Primary SSD - High Sierra (17G11023) and Web Driver (.134).
Collatz STILL CANNOT get ANY work sent to Daedalus.

ONLY Hackintosh Andromeda will be getting the new AMD/ATI Sapphire
Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card. IF I get up the nerve to reboot Andromeda
to the Secondary SSD - Windows 7 Pro SP-1 x64 - Prometheus profiled Drive,
then I can test both Cards on the System with Windows-NVIDIA Driver 388.13.
THEN, IF they both do work, this solidifies my plan to replace both Cards on
Andromeda/Prometheus with ONE Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card.
THEN, I'd move the 1070 to Daedalus, retire the 970 from Daedalus, also retire
the 1050 from Daedalus and reinstall the Original ATI Radeon HD-5770.

This of course also means I need a Secondary PSU for Daedalus for the 1070,
as the 1070 is 8-Pin, and the HD-5770 is 6-Pin. I'd power the 8-Pin from the
Secondary PSU and just power the 5770 from the MOBO.

All this also means retiring Andromeda/Prometheus' Secondary 1050.

As I've mentioned before all of this requires about $1K to move things around like
this, AND forces the need for TWO Monitors on Daedalus. One connected to the
5770 for access to the Sierra Drive and one connected to the 1070 for High Sierra.


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Message 2497 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 4:54:08 UTC

4-12-2020 at 9:54 PM - PDT

Well, after a grueling day today, (started at 12 PM),
I've FINALLY confirmed through ALL KINDS of
Software Tests, (both in Windows and in MacOS),
that my troubles ARE INDEED a FAILING
GTX-1070 Card! I've got the System currently on
MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 - (17G12034) and
NVIDIA Driver 387.10.10.10.40.135. (After going
back and forth with "Restore from Time Machine"
BACK to 3-29-2020 and (17G11023) and the (.134)
Driver.)

The Compute Cores on the 1070 are going bad. 😢😭😭😭
Currently the 1070 CANNOT handle Crunching
2 Units at a time in MacOS. I've adjusted the
app_config.xml File BACK to 1 Unit at a time.
Hackintosh-Andromeda IS Crunching at this very
moment.

I plan to replace BOTH the 1070 and the 1050
in Hackintosh-Andromeda with a single Sapphire
Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card, (New In Box),
from MacVidCards AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
However, this could take me a year to get the
funds. An exact replacement for the 1070 is
$499 while the RX-580 is $329 today. It's a
no-brainer to go for the cheaper Card.

Also, in going to the RX-580, I CAN move UP
to Mojave.


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Message 2499 - Posted: 14 Apr 2020, 2:46:04 UTC - in response to Message 2497.  

4-12-2020 at 9:54 PM - PDT

Well, after a grueling day today, (started at 12 PM),
I've FINALLY confirmed through ALL KINDS of
Software Tests, (both in Windows and in MacOS),
that my troubles ARE INDEED a FAILING
GTX-1070 Card! I've got the System currently on
MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 - (17G12034) and
NVIDIA Driver 387.10.10.10.40.135. (After going
back and forth with "Restore from Time Machine"
BACK to 3-29-2020 and (17G11023) and the (.134)
Driver.)

The Compute Cores on the 1070 are going bad. 😢😭😭😭
Currently the 1070 CANNOT handle Crunching
2 Units at a time in MacOS. I've adjusted the
app_config.xml File BACK to 1 Unit at a time.
Hackintosh-Andromeda IS Crunching at this very
moment.

I plan to replace BOTH the 1070 and the 1050
in Hackintosh-Andromeda with a single Sapphire
Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card, (New In Box),
from MacVidCards AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
However, this could take me a year to get the
funds. An exact replacement for the 1070 is
$499 while the RX-580 is $329 today. It's a
no-brainer to go for the cheaper Card.

Also, in going to the RX-580, I CAN move UP
to Mojave.
TimeLord04


I was running one wu at a time on my 1080Ti's, 1070's and 1060 gpu's and they were all maxing out at 98 to 100% gpu usage according to MSI AfterBurner, this was under Windows I did the same one unit at a time inLinux but I have no idea what the gpu usage was but the times were very similar.
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I was running one wu at a time on my 1080Ti's, 1070's and 1060 gpu's and they were all maxing out at 98 to 100% gpu usage according to MSI AfterBurner, this was under Windows I did the same one unit at a time inLinux but I have no idea what the gpu usage was but the times were very similar.

4-13-2020 at 8:26 PM - PDT

[@Mikey,]

How much VRAM did your Cards have?
My 1070 had 8GB and when I first joined
here and asked for help with the Config
Files, I was specifically told that with 8GB
of VRAM on the Card that it COULD easily
do 2 Units at a time. So, this is what
Hackintosh-Andromeda has been doing
over the past year or so when she was NOT
Crunching SETI.

So, the recent "Compute Errors" thrown while
Crunching 'Normally' 2 Units at a time starting
3-29-2020 really confused me. She's truly had
NO Issues Crunching 2 at a time until now.

[EDIT:]

IF I remember correctly, this discussion of 2 Units
at a time came up when I discovered that the NVIDIA
OpenCL Driver, (in MacOS), WOULD NOT work on
two different GPUs. (AND, EVEN on 2 Identical GPUs
as David has found out.) So, I was asked, (by I DON'T
remember who), how much VRAM the 1070 had. After
I responded "8GB", I was then told to set an app_config.xml
to allow 2 Units at a time to run here at Collatz.


TL

------------------------ Break in Item Quote. ------------------------

One more thing. I would keep your eye on the price for the flashed AMD VEGA 56 at MacVidCards (currently $450). That GPU, like the RX580, is compatible with Mojave in a MacPro 5,1.

Moreover, in an Akitio Node Titan eGPU enclosure connected to a MacMini, an unflashed VEGA 56 generates ~6 million Collatz credits/day. That's significantly more than the ~3.6 million Collatz credits generated by each of my two unflashed RX 580s in OWC Mercury Helios eGPU enclosures connected to an iMac. I know that some folks say that the VEGA 56 is power hungry, noisy, and hot. I haven't done any formal measurements, but I have not observed that my VEGA 56/MacMini setup is any warmer than its predecessor (MacPro 5,1 with a GTX 1080 that generates ~6 million Collatz credits/day).

So, I think the VEGA 56 will keep you in a price-performance sweet spot longer than the RX 580. Indeed, the benchmarking I have seen indicates that the AMD 5700 XT is not significantly faster than the VEGA 56, although it reportedly draws less power and generates less heat.

4-13-2020 at 8:49 PM - PDT

[@David,]

$329 is a stretch for my meager SSDI Funds. The 1070
went on a Credit Card because I thought it would be a
'one time purchase' that would last.... I CANNOT afford
to spend another $450 on the Vega 56 at this time. The
5700 XT is WAAAAAYYYY out of the question.

I will be happy with the Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580
8GB Card. IF and when I can make that purchase.


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4-15-2020 at 12:48 PM - PDT

[Update:]

One final notation....

IF the 1070 does in fact have damaged Compute Cores,
(still can't really prove this without electronically diagnosing
the Card. AND, I don't have equipment for that), ONE
POSSIBLE cause is the FACT that MacOS DOES NOT
have NOR allow 3rd Party GPU Fan Controls. (Things like
EVGA's Precision-X, MSI's Afterburner, etc....) Due to this
UNFORTUNATE LIMITATION, GPUs UNDER LOAD
are retaining excess heat that COULD otherwise be eliminated
with such 3rd Party Apps.

In my Windows 7 Pro SP-1 x64 Drive on the same System,
the GPUs are managed by Precision-X by EVGA and UNDER
LOAD, the fans on both my GPUs are run up to 98% of Fan
Speed! This keeps the GPUs COOL!

Apple REALLY needs to rethink this!


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4-15-2020 at 12:48 PM - PDT

[Update:]

One final notation....

IF the 1070 does in fact have damaged Compute Cores,
(still can't really prove this without electronically diagnosing
the Card. AND, I don't have equipment for that), ONE
POSSIBLE cause is the FACT that MacOS DOES NOT
have NOR allow 3rd Party GPU Fan Controls. (Things like
EVGA's Precision-X, MSI's Afterburner, etc....) Due to this
UNFORTUNATE LIMITATION, GPUs UNDER LOAD
are retaining excess heat that COULD otherwise be eliminated
with such 3rd Party Apps.

In my Windows 7 Pro SP-1 x64 Drive on the same System,
the GPUs are managed by Precision-X by EVGA and UNDER
LOAD, the fans on both my GPUs are run up to 98% of Fan
Speed! This keeps the GPUs COOL!

Apple REALLY needs to rethink this!
TL


Why not swap it into the Windows machine for a quick test to see if it can crunch a single workunit to test if it's still alive?
If so swap it back out for now but think of a way to do it permanently so it lives much longer with the fan control software.
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4-15-2020 at 12:48 PM - PDT

[Update:]

One final notation....

IF the 1070 does in fact have damaged Compute Cores,
(still can't really prove this without electronically diagnosing
the Card. AND, I don't have equipment for that), ONE
POSSIBLE cause is the FACT that MacOS DOES NOT
have NOR allow 3rd Party GPU Fan Controls. (Things like
EVGA's Precision-X, MSI's Afterburner, etc....) Due to this
UNFORTUNATE LIMITATION, GPUs UNDER LOAD
are retaining excess heat that COULD otherwise be eliminated
with such 3rd Party Apps.

In my Windows 7 Pro SP-1 x64 Drive on the same System,
the GPUs are managed by Precision-X by EVGA and UNDER
LOAD, the fans on both my GPUs are run up to 98% of Fan
Speed! This keeps the GPUs COOL!

Apple REALLY needs to rethink this!
TL


Why not swap it into the Windows machine for a quick test to see if it can crunch a single workunit to test if it's still alive?
If so swap it back out for now but think of a way to do it permanently so it lives much longer with the fan control software.

Mikey,

I mentioned THIS WAS ALREADY DONE... (In PM to you.
AND in other Threads where 'Compute Error' in MacOS
has come up.) The 1070 Card Crunches ONE Unit at a time
IN Windows WITH ONE Unit a time on the 1050 BECAUSE
the 388.13 (WHQL) Driver GIVES OpenCL to BOTH Cards
UNLIKE in MacOS where the Web Driver ONLY gives OpenCL
to the Primary Card - the 1070 in my case!

The FACT is that I USED TO BE ABLE to Crunch 2 Units
at a time on the 1070 in MacOS BECAUSE of the app_config.xml
File that worked WITH THE FACT that the 1070 Card HAS 8GB
VRAM and CAN HANDLE 2 Units at a time.

I 'believe' that SOME DAMAGE has occurred to the 1070 under
MacOS BECAUSE of the OS Limitation BLOCKING 3rd Party Apps
from controlling GPU Fan Speed! This limitation OF MacOS
means that GPUs, (ANY GPUs), under LOAD will retain HEAT
and cause damage.

[EDIT:]

Hackintosh-Andromeda AND Windows-Prometheus
ARE THE SAME EXACT Computer! Dual Boot....

I choose to be in MacOS because I eliminate MOST
Windows Update NIGHTMARE Headaches. In MOST
ways MacOS is a Superior OS to Windows... Apple
just needs to implement, (themselves or by allowing
3rd Party Apps), GPU Fan Control(s).


TL

[EDIT 2:]

Andromeda/Prometheus = $3K+ Hardware

IF Apple had made this System, it would be AT
LEAST TWICE the price....


TL

[EDIT 3:]

[Hackintosh-Andromeda - System Specs:]

Profile: iMac 18,3. [5K Retina 27" - 2017 Model.]

i7 7700K 4.2GHz, 4c/8t.
Gigabyte GA-H270-HD3 MOBO
CoolerMaster Hyper212-EVO
32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-CL14 2400MHz RAM - (4x 8GB)
Fenvi FV-T919 WiFi-AC & Bluetooth 4 PCI-e x1 Card.
Lite-On DVD-Burner.
Silverstone FS303B 3-Bay Hot Swap Bay.
(Bay-1) - Samsung VNAND 860 Pro 1TB SSD - High Sierra 10.13.6 - (17G12034), (APFS), w/Web Driver 387.10.10.10.40.135 & CUDA Driver 418.163.
(Bay-2) - Samsung VNAND 860 Pro 1TB SSD - Win 7 Pro SP-1 x64 w/NVIDIA (WHQL) Driver 388.13.
(Bay-3) - Western Digital Black SATA 2TB HD - MacOS Time Machine/Games - (HFS+), 1TB Each Partition.
One MacVidCards' GTX-1070 8GB GDDR5 VRAM - Low Power - (one 8 Pin Connector)
One EVGA GTX-1050 2GB GDDR5 VRAM.
Rosewill, NightHawk-117, E-ATX Case.
Corsair HX750i Platinum 750 Watt PSU.
Logitech M510 (USB Fob) Wireless Mouse.
MacAlly iKeySlim Full Sized Keyboard with 10-Key.
SabreNT USB Audio.
Logitech AK5370 USB Microphone
Logitech Extreme3DPro USB Joystick
UNITEK 10-Port USB 3.0 Hub.
ASUS VE278 27" Monitor on HDMI on GTX-1070.
Altec Lansing 45 2.1 Speaker Set.
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I agree that it would be nice if the MacOS allowed for control of GPU fan speeds. As a stopgap measure, I use TG Pro (Tunabelly Software) to crank up the system fans. As a result, my MacPro 5,1 running a flashed RX 580 and Mojave <https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/show_host_detail.php?hostid=858960> sounds like a small jet plane. Good luck with the upgrades! Once you get the Hackintosh running again, feel free to benchmark your RX580 against the one in this rig.
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[@Mikey,]

It's been some time since my last Post.

Mikey, I want to apologize to you for my rant. I'm just at my wits' end here.

NOW, even on one Unit at a time, she's giving "Compute Error" Msgs.
Just got this in Event Log: "Mon May 4 02:44:08 2020 | collatz | Aborting task collatz_sieve_dec8e37e-0a09-45a2-ae71-3052c76f7527_1: exceeded elapsed time limit 623.90 (41733990399.97G/66892429.15G)"

Card CONTINUALLY runs at 80-82C in MacOS while Crunching. This is just NOT acceptable!

I even ran that last Unit, (Event Log above), with the Side Panel OFF and a large 8-10" Fan blowing IN to the case
DIRECTLY onto the GPU. STILL got 80C in Crunching and got the above mentioned Error.

She's JUST NOT going to be a Cruncher anymore.

I've Aborted ALL the rest of my Units.

Mikey, as I originally Posted when this whole mess started, take over TLPTPHW Thread.
My RAC will just fall to 0, and I won't be able to move that Thread forward.


It was fun while it lasted. I'm just NOT willing to bounce between OSes just to Crunch.
I will run in MacOS as my Daily Driver.

God Bless, everyone. Good Luck to you all.


TL

[EDIT:]

Even with taking the ".config" File out of the equation, (deleting the contents),
the Card ran at 80C Crunching and gave "Compute Error" Msgs.

Card runs at 30C NOT Crunching.
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I agree that it would be nice if the MacOS allowed for control of GPU fan speeds. As a stopgap measure, I use TG Pro (Tunabelly Software) to crank up the system fans. As a result, my MacPro 5,1 running a flashed RX 580 and Mojave <https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/show_host_detail.php?hostid=858960> sounds like a small jet plane. Good luck with the upgrades! Once you get the Hackintosh running again, feel free to benchmark your RX580 against the one in this rig.


5-4-2020 at 2:18 PM - PDT

[@David,]

I'll have to look into TG Pro from Tunabelly Software for Daedalus,
my Mac Pro 5,1 - Mid-2010 System. I DEFINITELY am interested
in cranking up those fans to protect the Mac GTX-970 4GB Card
and the Secondary EVGA GTX-1050 2GB Card therein.

As for the Hackintosh, from this experience, even after I DO get
the Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX-580 8GB Card to allow me to get
to Mojave, I STILL will NOT be Crunching. NOT if THIS is the
result. I'm just NOT willing to sacrifice $329 + $14 Shipping for
the RX-580 after ALREADY sacrificing $555 + $14 Shipping for
the GTX-1070 and having this result...

I'm NOT made of $$$. I don't think, (at these prices), that
ANYONE wants to 'Invest' this kind of dough into this kind
of hardware to experience THIS....

Very depressing.


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