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Message 3381 - Posted: 4 Aug 2021, 7:41:17 UTC
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after finishing my first 2 units, i still have zero credit. the web page says that one of them has been validated but i didn't get any credit for it. why? i uploaded the results well before the deadline, so what is going on here?
the other unit says "validation inconclusive". what the hell does that mean? am i gonna get credits for that one?

i have 2 more units that are almost finished, and if i don't get any credit for those, i'll dump this project like a hot potato, cancelling the other 4 units i have downloaded.

update: i just dumped the project because those 2 units that were almost finished (like 1 hour to go) suddenly restarted for no reason whatsoever and the time elapsed did not reset. and ETA was in the 10s of thousands of days. (IOW, MANY years). i don't support a project so immature that that kind of stuff can happen.
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Message 3382 - Posted: 4 Aug 2021, 10:36:50 UTC - in response to Message 3381.  

after finishing my first 2 units, i still have zero credit. the web page says that one of them has been validated but i didn't get any credit for it. why? i uploaded the results well before the deadline, so what is going on here?
the other unit says "validation inconclusive". what the hell does that mean? am i gonna get credits for that one?

i have 2 more units that are almost finished, and if i don't get any credit for those, i'll dump this project like a hot potato, cancelling the other 4 units i have downloaded.

update: i just dumped the project because those 2 units that were almost finished (like 1 hour to go) suddenly restarted for no reason whatsoever and the time elapsed did not reset. and ETA was in the 10s of thousands of days. (IOW, MANY years). i don't support a project so immature that that kind of stuff can happen.


Validation Inconclusive means the unit hasn't come back from your wing man yet and once it does it will either validate, be invalidated, or remain inconclusive depending on the results your wingman sends back, this is normal at almost every Boinc Project.

2nd you are doing cpu tasks and you should really crunch cpu tasks someplace else as this project is much MUCH faster on gpu's.
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Message 3383 - Posted: 4 Aug 2021, 10:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 3382.  
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that doesn't explain why i didn't get credit for the unit that was validated. but hey, none of this makes any difference because i have abandoned the project because of the 2 units that were almost finished but then restarted for no reason whatsoever.
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Message 3384 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 7:01:54 UTC - in response to Message 3383.  

update: the one unit that was validated but got no credit has disappeared from my task list. why? what's going on here?

and why can't i edit the posts i made earlier???
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Message 3385 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 9:55:57 UTC - in response to Message 3384.  

update: the one unit that was validated but got no credit has disappeared from my task list. why? what's going on here?

and why can't i edit the posts i made earlier???


You can't edit your posts after 60 minutes of posting.

As for your cpu tasks not getting credit that has been a problem for over a year for some tasks, another reason to only use gpu's here.
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Message 3388 - Posted: 18 Aug 2021, 20:28:57 UTC - in response to Message 3385.  

i had 8 units in my task list, and now there are only 5 left, the 5 that have expired. the other 3 have disappeared. what's going on here? sounds like this project is riddled with bugs, which is why i'm not sorry i abandoned it.
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Message 3389 - Posted: 19 Aug 2021, 10:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 3388.  

i had 8 units in my task list, and now there are only 5 left, the 5 that have expired. the other 3 have disappeared. what's going on here? sounds like this project is riddled with bugs, which is why i'm not sorry i abandoned it.


The ones that disappeared are gone because you didn't start them before the deadline so the Server took them back and sent them to someone else, this is normal Boinc Server side behavior. And I told you a long time ago that doing cpu tasks here was problematic and to use a gpu instead.
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Message 3390 - Posted: 19 Aug 2021, 14:36:39 UTC - in response to Message 3389.  

i had 8 units in my task list, and now there are only 5 left, the 5 that have expired. the other 3 have disappeared. what's going on here? sounds like this project is riddled with bugs, which is why i'm not sorry i abandoned it.


The ones that disappeared are gone because you didn't start them before the deadline


no, you got that wrong. the ones that i didn 't start before the deadline are the ones that were still there, but 2 of them (deadline 13th of august) have disappeared too. now i have 3 left in the list, deadlines 15th and 16th of august.
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Message 3391 - Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 4:47:57 UTC

The problem is that you are crunching CPU task which are all erroring out because the are all broken. Same here. Don't crunch on CPU. Use GPU tasks if you have a GPU. But you didn't have, i see.
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Message 3392 - Posted: 20 Aug 2021, 9:30:40 UTC - in response to Message 3390.  

i had 8 units in my task list, and now there are only 5 left, the 5 that have expired. the other 3 have disappeared. what's going on here? sounds like this project is riddled with bugs, which is why i'm not sorry i abandoned it.


The ones that disappeared are gone because you didn't start them before the deadline


no, you got that wrong. the ones that i didn 't start before the deadline are the ones that were still there, but 2 of them (deadline 13th of august) have disappeared too. now i have 3 left in the list, deadlines 15th and 16th of august.


ALL projects delete tasks that are no longer needed, why let us spend the time crunching something they don't need?
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Message 3399 - Posted: 28 Aug 2021, 15:12:59 UTC
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Well, I got zero credit for 24 hours of GPU crunching. No task invalid. All valid for 28th Aug.
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Message 3400 - Posted: 29 Aug 2021, 1:17:27 UTC - in response to Message 3399.  

Same here. Is this going to be fixed soon or do we need to move to another project for awhile?
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Message 3401 - Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 0:03:24 UTC

A power outage which exceeded the amount of gas in the generator overnight cause a major problem. When it came back online, between all the user uploads, backups, data dumps for the stats, and the feeder timing out causing the work generator to once again create unneeded work, the disk ran out of space so it couldn't validate anything because it couldn't write to the database, write to the disk, or write to the log files. After taking a day off work today to fix everything, things are getting back to normal. It's going to take some time as I have to figure out which WUs and results are out of sync with the file system and there could potentially be hundreds of thousands of them. But at least it's back online and responding now. The validator backlog seems to be cleared up now.
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Message 3403 - Posted: 1 Sep 2021, 20:23:15 UTC - in response to Message 3401.  

Jon, thank you so much for your efforts in getting things up and running and thank you for updating us on the situation. Good luck!
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