Posts by Conan

1) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 1189)
Posted 21 hours ago by Profile Conan
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4 more validator versions later and results are now being granted credit.

Now to figure out how to resubmit all the WUs to be re-validated so they can get credit. MySQL runs out of memory if I submit all but submitting 1k and a time could take me weeks and in the mean time, others may turn in a valid result negating the original even thought it was valid.


Slicker,

It's been 24 days since your last update on the re-validation. Please put us out of our misery:
- Are you still working on it?
- Are the credits lost forever?

You should at least answer one of those questions.


I have WUs going back to June and still waiting for the credits.
I run the CPU WUs and as I do many other projects I just do a few at a time.
Linux is still not being credited for work done (I have 12 of these waiting)
Windows is now working and being credited but I still have one from before the fix that needs crediting as well.
That makes 13 to get credit (at the moment with another 2 being worked on).

I have sent some PMs but have not heard back for awhile now, last response I got indicated that Slicker was flat out at his work an was having trouble getting the time to catch up on things, not sure how he going now.

Conan
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing the Deadline (Message 1176)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile Conan
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Quick question. I have a couple of WUs that will miss their deadlines by a day or so. Will I still get credit or should I just abort them.

Thanks.


If you are still the first to return the WU then you will get credit.
You have 1 WU due 19/10 with the next due the day after, so really shouldn't be an issue, unless your computer is turned off.

Conan
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Computer Parks (Message 1140)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile Conan
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I am not sure why stevmcn has been singled out here but I doubt he is cheating.
He is ranked 6th in output at 69,000,000 points per day, the number 1 is doing more than twice as much (151,000,000 per day).

But in reading the forums and tweaking of graphic cards I can see how people can produce huge outputs from realatively small amounts of machines.

Your own output per day Gentilli, is 1.6 million a day, this can be reached by a single Nvidia 1050 (with correct settings) (30 minute run times per WU gives 2 per Hour = 48 per day * 30,000 per WU = 1.44 million per day, so a 1060 or 1070 GPU will reach your output).

So from this I have seen posted that 2 Nvidia 1070 cards (after correct settings applied) can produce 10 million per day, 1080s over 12 million.

2*1070 GPU= 10 million from 1 computer, so just 7 computers will produce 70 million points per day (which is what stevmcn is producing).

Nvidia 1080Ti cards produce even more as they run the WUs in less time so more per day.

A lot of people have 7 or more computers, if using Nvidia 1080Ti cards then even less computers are needed (just 6).

So I am just saying that a large computer farm (or park) is not needed to produced large RACs here at Collatz.
It can help but is not needed.

So you know from where I stand, I only use CPUs here at Collatz, and have only had 3 WUs credited with points in the last 2 months (all Windows ones), I now have 13 Linux work units that have not been credited with any points over the last few months.
So I am not in the credit league these others are here at Collatz, even yourself, Gentilli, leaves me in your dust.
My 100+ million total was mostly produced a number of years ago using a total of 4 x 4880 and later 5880 GPU cards in 2 computers, chewed some power, heaps of heat, getting about 1 million a day from these back then, as they died, I stopped GPU use and dropped back to CPU ever since.

But I can see how people get the outputs they get, simply amazes me, good luck to them.

Calling someone a cheat is a big call and I don't think in this case that it is warrented, unless more proof is produced then as you can see from what I wrote above, it is not too difficult to get big outputs here at Collatz, if you put the effort into configuring your GPU to get the best output.

Have a good day
Conan

Keep on smiling as it makes other wonder what you have been up to.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Validation Pending? (Message 624)
Posted 5 Jul 2018 by Profile Conan
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Being called a slacker, even in jest, may insult rather than make someone laugh. Your attempt at humour has not really worked, Slicker may see the funny side of it.

Hackers don't need to take days off as they get too much fun making problems for other people.

Jon puts in a huge amount of effort to keep his project running smoothly for us to have fun with, so give him a break.

One slack thing he probably does need is something to Slacken his thirst after he stops another cheat who is getting greedy.

I may of taken your quote the wrong way and you meant it to be funny, I hope that you did anyway, but repeating your statement does not make it funnier.

Conan
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly no credits on Sieve v1.40 work units (Message 545)
Posted 24 Jun 2018 by Profile Conan
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Not fixed for me on my latest Linux WU that I returned. I sent you a PM with details.

But it could of been before your latest fixes, so I am waiting to see what the next two do.

Thanks
Conan
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly no credits on Sieve v1.40 work units (Message 466)
Posted 4 Jun 2018 by Profile Conan
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I also just had mine deleted from my account, so no more record of the WU. I did however send the info to Slicker when it was returned 2 days ago, so I hope he got the info.
It also was validated and zero credit awarded.

(Host=831325, Task=1534301, WU=1332567)

I did have one WU returned from my Windows machine that was validated and awarded credit, it was returned 2 days ago but has also been deleted from the account. They don't stay there very long.

Maybe it is just a Linux problem now?

Conan
7) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 465)
Posted 4 Jun 2018 by Profile Conan
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@Alessandro : There is no work available for all platforms / OS / GPUs at the moment, Slicker is working on priorities right now, be patient !

Thanks again for all the hard work Slicker, et ne baisses pas les bras ;)

Edit : I hadn't seen Slicker latest message just above, so mine is even more correct :)

Also be sure to use use "http://" and NOT "https://" when you sign on again.


Ok, after a month I can't get works yet.
I've detach and attach with new client 7.10.2 (https), and try to get works on 2 PC (first with a Radeon 7790, 2nd with intel GPU) that before works without problems. I think the main problem is that the collatz work dir stay empty, it can downdown even the executable, on both PCs, so I suspect the problem could be on my user entry on server.


What happens if you add <http_1_0>1</http_1_0> to your cc_config.xml file?

I was given this to try when for the last month I have not been able to download or even contact goofyxgrid@home and get work, then with this it all worked. It changes the standard request http 1.1 to 1.0 I think.

Goes in the options section like this

<cc_config>
<options>
<http_1_0>1</http_1_0>
</options>
</cc_config>

It may alreadt be in your cc_config.xml file, if you have one, but will have a 0 instead of a 1 in the middle.

Conan
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly no credits on Sieve v1.40 work units (Message 458)
Posted 2 Jun 2018 by Profile Conan
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I believe that it is more a problem with the Validator scripts than with the Work Units.

The work units seem fine, there is just a problem when the validator processes them, hence the credit issue and the inconclusive issue, as Slicker said that there should not be any inconclusive results at all.

Here is hoping that he can work it all out. I am sure he can. I have faith in him.

Conan
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Constantly no credits on Sieve v1.40 work units (Message 456)
Posted 2 Jun 2018 by Profile Conan
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Get the same issue, but I know that Slicker is aware of it and looking into fixed the problem.

Conan
10) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 410)
Posted 20 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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None of the WUs should ever end up as inconclusive because they are either valid or not. The validation is done within the WU. e.g. the CPU WUs doulble check every new "high" using a separate algorithm and if they don't agree, it fails. If they do, it should validate. There shouldn't an "inconclusive". I'm going to turn off the file deleter so that once I figure out what is going on I can re-validate the tasks so you should get credit.


Thanks for this Slicker,

Just had another WU that had validated (like my 1st one), disappear from my account list (just like my 1st one). This time it was on a Linux machine and ran for about 420,000 seconds.
Both were awarded Zero credit.
Have one still there (an inconclusive) and another still running.

I am glad that you are letting me post as I still have Zero RAC, so thanks for that.

Thanks for all your hard work.

Conan


The issue was because BOINC, being stupid as usual, was rejecting the WUs because it didn't like the FLOPS count. LOL. There are no FLOPS in Collatz. Only integer calculations. So, I edited credit.cpp and commented out all the stupid code and re-validated all inconclusive WUs.


Again thanks for your hard work here Slicker.

I had a Windows work unit that ran for 540,000 or so seconds, then had a Linux WU that ran for 420,000 or so seconds, they both disappeared without credit.
I think that I recieved credit that was for those two work units about 2 days ago, it all went to one computer but that is not a concern.
Since then I have another 2 WUs on different Linux machines that went from inconclusive to pending yesterday, but they also have disappeared without credit.
One ran for 420,700 seconds and the other ran for 786,630 seconds.

So I still have an RAC of 0.00 and I am still thankful you let me post.

Another WU has downloaded on my Windows computer, so the fun starts again.

Conan
11) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 385)
Posted 17 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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None of the WUs should ever end up as inconclusive because they are either valid or not. The validation is done within the WU. e.g. the CPU WUs doulble check every new "high" using a separate algorithm and if they don't agree, it fails. If they do, it should validate. There shouldn't an "inconclusive". I'm going to turn off the file deleter so that once I figure out what is going on I can re-validate the tasks so you should get credit.


Thanks for this Slicker,

Just had another WU that had validated (like my 1st one), disappear from my account list (just like my 1st one). This time it was on a Linux machine and ran for about 420,000 seconds.
Both were awarded Zero credit.
Have one still there (an inconclusive) and another still running.

I am glad that you are letting me post as I still have Zero RAC, so thanks for that.

Thanks for all your hard work.

Conan
12) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 364)
Posted 14 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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I'm testing the validator, work generator, assimilator, and applications. It may or may not work which means you may or may not get credit for your work. There is still a lot of work to do but I'm making progress.


Hi Jon,

Started to notice CPU work units are finally beginning to validate, some inconclusive and some validating fine.

However, the ones which have validated fine give no credit at present.

Is this still on the to do list?




Thanks as always for all the work you're putting in!

Jack


Getting this also.

Thanks
Conan


Well it looks like I didn't get any credit for over 540,000 seconds of CPU work on my Windows machine. No credit awarded and now the WU has been deleted.

That sucks a fair bit.

The WU was validated but no awarded credit.

I have 3 more on my Linux machines, so I will see what happens there.

I know that a lot of work is still being done by Slicker and it is not his full time job, I will wait and see what happens.

Thanks Slicker for the hard work of getting the project back up.

Conan


Just wondering what happened to the Windows CPU WUs and if the credit can be recovered? Mainly because I spent 154 Hours on that particular WU and then to have it deleted without credit after being validated, was disappointing.

How are the efforts with the CPU work units coming along?

I have 2 Linux work units that have finished but saying validation is inconclusive, this is on 2 different machines. Both ran well over 100 hours.

Conan
13) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 308)
Posted 11 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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I'm testing the validator, work generator, assimilator, and applications. It may or may not work which means you may or may not get credit for your work. There is still a lot of work to do but I'm making progress.


Hi Jon,

Started to notice CPU work units are finally beginning to validate, some inconclusive and some validating fine.

However, the ones which have validated fine give no credit at present.

Is this still on the to do list?




Thanks as always for all the work you're putting in!

Jack


Getting this also.

Thanks
Conan


Well it looks like I didn't get any credit for over 540,000 seconds of CPU work on my Windows machine. No credit awarded and now the WU has been deleted.
That sucks a fair bit.
The WU was validated but no awarded credit.

I have 3 more on my Linux machines, so I will see what happens there.

I know that a lot of work is still being done by Slicker and it is not his full time job, I will wait and see what happens.

Thanks Slicker for the hard work of getting the project back up.

Conan
14) Message boards : News : Use at your own risk (Message 298)
Posted 10 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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I'm testing the validator, work generator, assimilator, and applications. It may or may not work which means you may or may not get credit for your work. There is still a lot of work to do but I'm making progress.


Hi Jon,

Started to notice CPU work units are finally beginning to validate, some inconclusive and some validating fine.

However, the ones which have validated fine give no credit at present.

Is this still on the to do list?




Thanks as always for all the work you're putting in!

Jack


Getting this also.

Thanks
Conan
15) Message boards : News : Linux Apps Avaliable (Message 264)
Posted 7 May 2018 by Profile Conan
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Excellent work Slicker, thank you.

They are taking a while on a CPU, but I like a challenge.

Conan




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